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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  KiiRiiK on Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:29 pm

ok onda oko 17 i 30

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Post  Kerensky on Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Ja sam na poslu do 15h, pa posle toga mogu, s tim da kola imam od oko 16:30, te racunaj da dolazim po tebe GM
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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  Stranac on Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:23 pm

To su se tvorci igre setili da se igrovoditelj zove Narrator. No, kojom god ga titulom oslovio, biće najbolje da ti lepo odeš po Aćima kad mu dođe vreme Wink

Ja imam taj neki haos tu sa faxom, ali mislim da ću se snaći i pridružiti vam se na Minosu u dogovoreno vreme, ali nema garancije.

Nego, hteo sam još na sešnu da vas pitam - šta vi mislite, da li je osoba koja izađe iz teleporta ista ona koja je i ušla? Ustvari, pitanje se svodi na to da li je savršena kopija ustvari identički jednaka originalu ili nije... U kvantnoj fizici to jeste tako, ali to su kvanti...

Ako ste kojim slučajem gledali Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (da, da, pogodili ste, obožavam mangu, anime, čak i soundtrack, sve redom Very Happy ), mogli ste da se upoznate sa sličnom problematikom - da li je kiborg, koji nema deo tela koji još nije bar nekoliko puta zamenio, a um mu postoji u stanju konstantnog fluxa sa sveprožimajućom mrežom interneta i spoljašnjih memorijskih jedinica, ista osoba? Ustvari, pitanje tamo je više da li se u takvoj okolini ustvari može ostvariti (ili očuvati) kontinuitet svesti koji je potreban da osoba vidi sebe kao ličnost, da ima samosvesnost. blablabla bla bala bla...

Tako mi Galaxije, ne volim taj teleport, pa eto, ne volim ga! panic affraid No
Ali, ako nema drugog načina... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few spocky
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Post  Kerensky on Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:29 am

Semantika samo usporava akciju. Stoga GM (manje slova nego narator).

A sto se tice teleporta, napravicemo mi tebi merdevine, pa taman dok dodjes sve bude gotovo i ti dobijes brdo materijala za analizu i skeniranje.
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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  Stranac on Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:21 am

Merdevine? scratch Misliš nešto kao orbitalni lift?
A šta fali šatlu? I gde se to tebi žuri? spocky
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Post  KiiRiiK on Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:14 pm

"Transporting really is the safest way to travel."
- Geordi La Forge (TNG: "Realm of Fear")


Safety features, protocols and components

As with other Starfleet technology, the transporter had its own set of safety features, protocols and procedures. In an emergency, many of these safety systems could be modified or circumvented.

Early versions of the transporter in the 22nd century appeared to have no protection against external incursions into an active transport. "Foreign matter" such as blowing debris could get caught up in the transport and become embedded or integrated into the subject. (ENT: "Strange New World") Energy weapons fire would also affect the subject unless it was sufficiently far into the transport that the fire passed through it harmlessly. (ENT: "Broken Bow", "Countdown") By the late 23rd century, however, transporters shielded the subject from these external incursions. (Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, TNG: "A Matter of Perspective")

Biofilters were uniformly used on all Federation transporters by the 24th century. These filters functioned to decontaminate transported objects and prevent harmful substances, pathogens, and even certain forms of radiation (including theta radiation), from contaminating the rest of the ship. (VOY: "Macrocosm", "Night")

Though biofilters performed a general contaminate removal with each transport, some novel contaminate removal required specific calibration in order for the filters to be effective. As such, biofilters were incapable of filtering out certain types of substances and pathogens, most notably psychic energy. (TNG: "Lonely Among Us", "Power Play")

Biofilters were also unable to detect and filter certain types of phased reality lifeforms without prior calibration. Biofilters also functioned to detect and disable weapons and explosives (remat detonators). (TNG: "Realm of Fear", "The Schizoid Man", "The Most Toys")

Additionally pattern buffers were used to compensate for relative motion during transport, ensuring that transported matter materialized in the correct location.

Except in cases of extreme emergency, protocols prohibited transporting objects while traveling at warp speed


Ali ako Volok nije "zaljubljen" da putuje uz transporter to je druga stvar.
Sistem rada Transportera zvuci uzasavajuce u nasem vremenu, prvo na osnovu velikih kapitalistickih kuca koje proizvode i druge sisteme kao sto su PC, Automobili, TV i slicno, pa su samim time apsolutno nesigurni.
U obzir moras uzeti 2 i po veka napredovanja u toj tehnologiji, zajedno sa novom ljudskom osobinom, kao i osobinom svih clanica UFP-a. A to je NAPREDAK u cilju evolucije, a ne dominacije.

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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  Stranac on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:10 pm

Ja postavim filozofsko pitanje, a ti mi daš tehničke detalje.... Neutral
Baš nemate senzibiliteta za pitanje prirode individualnog spiritualnog bivstvovanja u stanju kvantnog fluxa... Wink
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Post  KiiRiiK on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:33 pm

Kako dostici "kefaju" ako ne uzmes u ruke i detalj o tehnickom pitanju stanja kvantnog fluxa.
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Post  =Charok= on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:44 pm

KiiRiiK wrote:
Sistem rada Transportera zvuci uzasavajuce u nasem vremenu, prvo na osnovu velikih kapitalistickih kuca koje proizvode i druge sisteme kao sto su PC, Automobili, TV i slicno, pa su samim time apsolutno nesigurni.



Ja se recimo ovim nikad ne bi vozio... warrior
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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  KiiRiiK on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:47 pm

LOL e taj rad, zamisli da moras da stanes na transporter sa Microsoft platformom ili Linux platformom ili Mac uzaaaaas

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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  Stranac on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:17 pm

Da, zamisli brod Zvezdane Flote gde i svaki najmanji deo ima na sebi utisnut ili naslikan logo sa sve copyrightom...
A ispod imena broda je veliki znak "Drink Slug-o-Cola! The slimiest cola in the Galaxy!" trade
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Post  Firefly on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:20 pm

Shocked

Kad se igramo?

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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  KiiRiiK on Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:17 pm

Ajd kako vam odgovaraju dani sledece nedelje?

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Post  Malkovian on Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:31 pm

sve sem cetvrtka i petka Very Happy
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Re: Zvezdane staze

Post  Stranac on Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:56 pm

Znači, sreda.

Nego, Volok će da se malo posveti sebi posle ove avanture. Naime, kako je postavio sebi pitanje da li je on identičan sa samim sobom od pre teleportacije, nije našao nikakav drugi način da pokuša da dobije odgovor, no da meditira o tome. Moraće da pokuša da dopre do dovoljno duboko u svoj um, kako bi osmotrivši tamošnje mehanizme, mogao da utvrdi ako se oni menjaju usled teleportacije.

Ovo pitanje ne može ostati bez odgovora.
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Post  KiiRiiK on Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:10 am

Samo napred.
Mozes o tome da razmisljas koliko god hoces, samo uzmi u obzir da je Vulkanska Naucna Akademija prihvatila teleportaciju kao normalan nacin putovanja.
Nemoj samo preterati i bice OK.

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Post  Firefly on Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:15 am

u sredu ja mogu od 16:30
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Post  Stranac on Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:48 am

A jeste? U tom slučaju voleo bih da vidim njihovu dokumentaciju, živo me zanima da li će pomenuti katru.
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Post  Firefly on Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:09 pm

Ali, ako već želis da brines, evo ti par još boljih razloga, detaljnije se razrađuju na Memory Alpha:

Transporter accidents
Transporter psychosis
Split one entity into good and evil entities
Transport to the mirror universe
Accidental deaths
Split one entity into two identical entities
(take that, individualno spiritualno bivstvovanje u stanju kvantnog fluxa)
Rematerialization without clothes (woo hoo)
Time travel
Being turned into holograms
(A INŽINJER I NAUČNIK ME UBEDIŠE KAKO TO NE MOŽE! KAŽEM JA: SVI MINOSIJANCI SU SE LEPO PRESNIMILI KAD SU VIDELI DA JE ĐAVO DOŠO PO SVOJE!)
Two entities merged into one
...


"Because of these accidents, some people suffer from transporter phobia ..."
al šta je jedna tričava fobija za disciplinovanog Vulkanca? panic

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Post  =Charok= on Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:03 pm

Firefly wrote:
Split one entity into good and evil entities
Accidental deaths
Rematerialization without clothes (woo hoo)
Time travel

Hehe, sve to se primenjuje na Terminatora
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Post  Stranac on Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:07 pm

Hmm, deluje mi da će mi biti potrebno neko vreme da proanaliziram sve ove podatke...
Sad, da li se može smatrati da Riker nije imao katru? To bi pojednostavilo stvari...

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Post  KiiRiiK on Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:44 am

Sreda izmedju 1745 i 1800 sesion u klubu

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Post  =Charok= on Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:06 am

Bicemo tamo! <navlaci Cubakin kostim> trooper
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Post  Stranac on Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:06 am

Važi!
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Post  Slos on Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:34 am

Ha ha mi isto tada igramo STAR WARS sesn anihilative
(cisto informativno)
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