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Post  Largo on Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:27 pm

Kako mi nije knjiga pri ruci ne mogu da proverim ovo ali na zvaničnom GW sajtu stoji za Bretonce taktika za negiranje steadfast.

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In days of yore, you could have expected your knights to smash clean through enemy regiments, however the Steadfast rule has ended those halcyon days. If you hurl a unit of Knights of the Realm at a unit of Goblins, Skaven or Empire state troops you'll find yourself lancing them into ribbons, but not breaking them as they invariably pass their Leadership test. The following turn, when you're not charging and you don't get any Strength bonuses can be difficult indeed. Of course, you can get around this by carefully manoeuvring your units. Don't forget how fast your horses are. You'll remove the enemy's rank bonus with just six Knights Errant in their flank (since Bretonnian Lance formations get a rank bonus with just three models). This means they can kiss their Steadfast bonus (and their unchivalrous hides) goodbye!

Nisam video nigde eratu koja kaže da je konjici dovoljan samo jedan red da negira rank bonuse a samim tim i steadfast.
Ili ja ovo pogrešno razumem...
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Post  Maxa on Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:58 pm

Dovoljno je da imas pun red bilo cega u flenku ili riru protivnicke jedinice da bi mu ponisitio renk bonuse... a steadfast bi trebalo da ostaje kolko ja znam
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Post  Largo on Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:05 pm

I ja to znam ali vidiš šta pišu na GW sajtu
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Post  kgkid on Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:26 pm

Pravila kako su napisana, protiv pravila kako su zamisljena.

GW je u formulaciji napada u bok/ledja napisao da ti treba ekstra red u boku/ledjima (min. 2 reda jedinica) da bi protivniku negirao "rank bonuse". Posto Steadfast nije eksplicitno pomenut, on se na turnirima ne negira. ETC je u nekom trenutku ublazio celu pricu recima da ti treba "full rank", umesto "extra rank" za ovo, ali Steadfast nije pominjan. Ne znam da li je WTC zadrzao ublazenu verziju?

Namera je bila nesto drugacija, sto se vidi iz vise GW clanaka i prikaza bitaka iz proteklog perioda. Po svemu sto sam ja do sada iscitao, namera je bila da jedinice koje imaju "ekstra red" (ukupno dva ili vise redova) u boku/ledjima negiraju sve "rank bonuse", ukljucujuci i steadfast.

Ipak, namera je kanda propala zbog lose formulacije i neispravljanja cele price u Eratama i FAQ.
Sta mislite, da li bi zatrpavanje GW podrske ovim pitanjem nagnalo GW da ubaci to u FAQ?
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Post  Maxa on Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:12 pm

kgkid wrote: negiraju sve "rank bonuse", ukljucujuci i steadfast.
u stvari sve bonuse koje daje "posedovanje" redova, jasno. Ne znam, cudno mi ja da ovako bitnu stvar niko nikad nije prijavio GWu...
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Post  kgkid on Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:16 pm

Jeste, ali su oni odlucili da ih ne zanima... Very Happy
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Post  Largo on Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm

Well ja ću im svakako pisati jer je meni ovo vrlo bitno - daje mi novu dimeziju za armiju
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Post  Largo on Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:05 pm

Poslao sam mejl.
Tražiću da to uđe u FAQ
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Post  kgkid on Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:57 pm

P.55, BRB, Prvi paragraf!

kaze da se Steadfast ne gubi ako je jedinica disrupted. Eksplicitnije ne biva! Clanci na GW sajtu su cista glupost.

Ipak, zanimljivo je sacekati njihov odgovor! Very Happy
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